WGW 31: Gu Li vs Lee Sedol – Jubango Game 1 Amateur Review

Weekly Go Wednesday: Issue #31

Credit to GoGameGuru
Credit to GoGameGuru

For those who didn’t know, Gu Li and Lee Sedol had their first epic match of their ten match series jubango. And though many of you might have watched the game or checked out the game record later on, I wouldn’t be surprised if a number of weaker players like myself were left in bewilderment most of the time. After all, even though it was really exciting, it’s hard to learn from a game where so much is going on at once!

So I came up with the idea to team up with my sensei, frozensoul, and do a review together in order to provide a step-by-step review of every move in the game. Now granted, I’m sure that many strong dan players might refute some of my comments or argue that there is so much more to what I reviewed, but my goal is simply this: To provide a game record that would allow kyu players to easily follow the game and understand some of the most significant moments of the game. As a result, it should be no surprise that complicated variations and advanced theoretical discussions are intentionally avoided and left to other people who are much more qualified to speak to those things than I am (i.e., World Go Online and GoGameGuru). The following is the result of our efforts:

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Finally, I would love to do this for every game in the jubango series. However, it took a LOT of time and effort in order to do so. As a result, I am hoping to get feedback from everyone on whether or not you think the review was helpful / was it worth it in order to help me decide whether to continue doing this or not. And as usual, if you like what I have done but have ideas for making it even better, please be sure to mention that in the comments below (or email me if you’re feeling shy =D). Looking forward to reading all of your comments!

  • Paul

    Excellent work! I find it very helpful to compare this review with the ones done by professionals: For example, you comment on move 20 being solid, while the professionals focus on why the obvious cut doesn’t work. You also tend to describe moves as avoiding complications, while the professionals seem much more concerned about exactly which complications exist, and whether or not they can work out for that player.

    It’s a very helpful reminder that at our level it’s tempting to play solely by principle, but that that doesn’t replace deep reading. It seems like professionals oppose a move from a fighting spirit, and find some path to life much later, but it’s more likely that they saw the path to life before setting a single foot down it.

    • Ben

      Thanks! The difference you found between my review and pro reviews is quite interesting! Haha. And like you said, I think it speaks a lot to how we just are unable to see the type of instantaneous deep reading that they tend to have when analyzing moves like this.

      Perhaps the next step in us gaining another stone is simply that: not becoming attached to playing by principle and relying on deep reading. =) Appreciate the feedback!

  • I enjoyed this a lot – I spent some time looking at it yesterday and then some more today. I can see how much work it must have taken.

    Regarding whether it’s worth doing one of these for each game, my feeling is that it might not be. You’ve got more competition than I would have expected, such as the incredible write-up on Kiseido’s site (http://www.kiseido.com/printss/guliten1.html). That said, I’m such a fan of this jubango that I’d love to see you keep contributing to its enjoyment. Maybe there are different ways the review could be focused? I know I’d love to see something like a record of your experience watching the game. Less of an expert review, more of a story about what surprised you, what was exciting, what you felt would help in your own games. It might be easier, too, since it wouldn’t require such a thorough take on every move. Dunno, that’s just one perspective.

    Whatever you do, thanks to you and frozensoul for taking so much time to contribute this to the online go community!

    • Ben

      Thanks man! I think your idea is great! I originally thought I would either do it or not, but perhaps switching up the format may be more interesting to people reading the blog (and a lot easier on my time and energy. haha). Always glad to have your input man!

  • RisingStar

    Thanks a lot for the review. You know, this is the first time I have ever gotten close to understanding the skill of both of these players. Small question, you don’t have to answer. Who do you support and think will win this series? Also, do you think that white should have played at D2 at move 42?

    • Ben

      You’re welcome! I’m really glad it helped! And to your question, D2 at move 42 is not as good because it gives Black more forcing moves later on. And also, since Lee Sedol was one of the first professionals I really started following, I am rooting for him; but to be honest, I’ve come to really admire Gu Li’s kiai and style of play, so I have no idea who will actually win. =)

  • Martin

    VERY good!!!!

    • Ben

      Thanks! I appreciate the kudos!

  • Lumo

    Amazing review, you got me glued to the screen with my mouth open! (gross?) I hope you can find the time and energy to do other installments as the Jubango progresses 🙂

    • Ben

      I’m glad you enjoyed it! And no it’s not gross at all! It makes me happy to hear that it could be so exciting! Haha. I am glad for your feedback and am definitely feeling more inclined to keep the format or enhance it to be better! =) Appreciate it!

  • kProtein

    Great review!!! Thanks

    • Ben

      You’re welcome! Glad you enjoy it!

  • Bezo

    Hi just wanted to say that I enjoyed this and I hope you do this for the rest of the games in the jubango. Thanks 🙂

    • Ben

      Thanks for the encouragement! I will definitely be sure to do so!